Devor: "Five-year-olds, for example, may be able to accurately recognize their own gender and the genders of the people around them, but they will often make such ascriptions on the basis of role information, such as hair style, rather than physical attributes, such as genitals, even when physical cues are clearly known to them."
Me: "I completely agree with this statement. I remember when I was that age, I never understood gender being identified by their genitals and I believed that all long-haired people were females, even though my dad had long hair."
Devor: "Those who tend to speak more loudly, use less polite and more assertive forms, and tend to interrupt the conversations of others more often also communicate masculinity to others."
Me: "I disagree with you on that one. Many of the loud-talking people I know are female and they are usually the ones that do the interrupting. If a guy interrupts, he is considered rude. What age are you from, dude? Although I do agree that males are usually the less polite ones."
Devor: "Fortunately, our training to gender roles is neither complete nor uniform. As a result, it is possible to point to multitudinous exceptions to, and variations on, these themes."
Me: "That, I agree with you on. When I watch couples in a relationship, the characteristics between the male and the female vary. In somerelationships, the female is the quiet one while her guy does all the talking and vice versa for other relationships. The breadwinner in the relationship varies, too. Sometimes the husband is a 'sugardaddy' and other times the wife is the one bringing in all the money."
Devor, Aaron H. "Becoming Members of Society: Learning the Social Meanings of Gender." Rereading America. Boston: Bedford/ St. Martin's, 2004. pp. 424-431.
5 comments:
Wow! We thought really alike on this article! I agree with you on all of your points, especially on the one about girls being louder than men. When Aaron said that men were interrupters and that they were loud, I was totally in shock. He kind of annoyed me because in most circumstances, it's the girl that interrupts or is always shouting out to others that she knows. I think that Aaron is really outdated also. On another point, I know that when I was a child, I used to think that long hair made someone a girl automatically. That is too funny that we had the same concepts as kids. So, do you think that Aaron contradicted himself a lot? It seemed to me that he seems to do that quite frequently throughout his article. I found it annoying because I couldn't decide what he really thought.
So if you use yo identify women as someone with long hair,were you ever confused as the gender of your dad? Did you just think that girls only have long hair? So what your reaction to the guys in your school who has long hair back when your in kindergarten? I do agree on the things that your are saying. I do not consider rudeness as masculinity. Its unacceptable in any society or gender. I also like the idea that gender roles are never uniform and complete. Since everyone has a different background, everyone has different views of gender roles.
To Caitlin: Yes, it did appear that Aaron contradicted himself. He (oh wait, I heard he's a she now) talks about how men have to be rude and dominant and how women have to be polite and submissive, and then at the end, he says that nobody has to conform to a specific role. Dude, think before you write.
To Jp: About that long hair thing, I knew my Dad was a man and even though I thought of long hair as feminine, I just never put two and two together. There may have been one boy in my class who had long hair, but not all of it was long, it was kind of mullet-style (I am so bad with naming hairstyles!). When I was talking about rudeness being masculine, I was thinking about my "redneck" hometown and I should have clarified that. Some men in my town would belch without saying "excuse me" and are often the ones that use rude language.
Anyone who thinks that guys are louder and talk more than women clearly have not been in a room full of us. My dad lives in a house full of three women and he would definitely disagree with this statement. (That is if he could even get a word in)
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